(00:00:00 ) Zocalo

(00:50:56 ) Grey Council



Time rifts, shadowy wars, and Zathras the honey badger of space?! In this episode of Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus dive into the game-changing Babylon 5 episode “Babylon Squared.” We unravel the mystery of the vanished station, puzzle over the appearance of “Old Jeff,” and lose our collective minds over the arrival of Zathras.

Ali spins wild theories about humanity’s future evolution, Jenn weighs in on JMS’s knack for raising more questions than answers, and Gus insists Babylon 4 is the most important thing we’ve seen yet. Jenny connects the themes of sacrifice and destiny, and the whole crew debates whether Jeff Sinclair really is “the one.”

Along the way, we also wander into 2001: A Space Odyssey costume trivia, new merch ideas (Old Jeff seasoning, anyone?), and the possibility that the Minbari are just theater kids with triangles. 🌌

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